Rip off Report :
Rip off Report, the Consumer reporting site that ia NOT a credible federal or state Agency by it's very nature that's further, solely owned and operated by the private individual of ED Magedson whom both himself and his site of ROR, admittedly pride themselves as being the so-called "Champions" for the under dog, or standing up for the little guy, but does he, or his site of Rip Off Report really do this?
To answer this question personally and in our experience to which forms this opinion, I would say that rip off report really doesn't stand up for the little guy or small business, nor does the site personally engage in blasting large or small companies online yet, this site does allow others to carry out liable speech against these same private and company entities whom refuse to take part in its Advocacy Program.
Again in our experience, we believe that additional negative commits and at times, bashing o0f our names has originated from other ror Users and quite possibly, coming from some of Rip Off Reports editors such as a User named “Stacy” and “Ramjet” who I like to call instigators. These users can be found posting all kinds of negative statements against various businesses on the site for at least five years back. Typically, these Users rail against anyone who has a spell casting or otherwise business of a spiritual nature.
With this aside and being said please allow me to continue to my next point, or to further convey my personal experience and interaction with ED Magedson and his site of Rip Off Report via stating that Mr Magedson has been aware of the liable generated against us by a cyber troll, stalker and Pay Pal con-woman by the name of Mary Prantil of Astoria New York, and has done very little about it past limiting her to one very long and repetitive negative post a day against us.
He's possibly even taken away her ability to post master reports on his site of rip off report to which is greatly appreciated by ourselves however we, like many other legitimate companies have to post repeatedly to the point of spamming on this particular site in a attempt to keep up with this stalker antagonist spamming post to which is prominently displayed under our personal and company names on Google the next day.
Does Rip Off Report Help The Consumer?
I've personally sent ED Magedson a copy and links to what's presented as Mary Prantil's criminal and civil charges as presented by the Unified Court System of the state of New York for his review yet, this didn't seem to do any good as Prantil is still posting against us to this day on the site of Rip Off Report.
I have explained to Mr. Magedson, that by allowing a known stalker scam artist like Mary Prantil to post on his site of ror, this only destroys the sites credibility since we have proven her to be a career criminal whom has further, faced nine criminal charges in the New York criminal courts for a period of four years and nine months now.
It's not just that this particular antagonist of Mary Prantil has nine criminal charges pending against her in NYC for going on roughly five years, or that she seems to be granted one continence right after another over the last four years plus via the generosity of the New York court system but moreover, that she been proven over and over again to be a scam artist, a two bit criminal with bad intent against online businesses beyond a reasonable doubt yet, she's allowed to continue.
The very nature of her crimes that has, seemingly gone unnoticed, or ignored by Mr. Magedson and his site of Rip Off Report should be something of a great concern to him and further, viewed as a detrimental element to the site itself however, folks like Prantil are seemingly afforded the ability to post liable material on the site of ror and others likened to it, under the first amendment and the anonymity law.
So in essence what we have, is a succession of sites coming off as Consumer protection organizations on the Internet whom proclaim to be there for the Consumer, who’s goal is to seek out truth and bring justice into the equation via allowing the Consumer to vent their grievance on-line against a particular company or Individual.
Whom further, doesn't take the time to research or evaluate the facts of a situation or complaint and or, whom may know that in a good many cases that the material posted could be in all probability highly liable information, but refuses to take this negative misinformation against a company or person off their pages for whatever reason.
Sites likened to Rip Off Report, that have a good and verifiable knowledge of this particular Stalkers New York criminal and civil records as they been informed and can further observe because there openly displayed by the New York court system for anyone to view, records posted on an official and established correctional web site.
Bad Apple
Ok, my question is as follows for Rip Off Report and all sites likened to ror is as follows: Why? Would you allow a person like Mary Prantil of Astoria to post on your site especially, when you can discern the nature of her nine criminal charges to be such things as Felony Stalking, Criminal Contempt, Aggravated Harassment, Communicating Telephone Alarm and Resisting Arrest.
Let's not stop there, why would you permit a person such as Prantil who was just sued for her illegal activities in a civil court for Liable, Impeding Interstate Commerce, Defamation against two persons in Idaho, Two in Florida, One or two in California, and three in New York New York whom currently has her under the nine criminal charges.
Why on earth? would any of these Consumer report site allow a person such as this antagonist to post anything on their sites against another person or company especially, when it is a matter of record that Prantil has a ten years history of criminal activity both in New York and another ten years of activity in the state of California, beyond me.
Again, Why? would these report sites proclaim to be the seekers of truth and justice for the little guy when obviously allow anyone to post whatever they will be it true or not and then refuse to take any of it down even when they know it to be false information that will ultimately, harm a company or person, good question huh?
Yes, ED Magedson and his site of ROR, does allow us to respond back to the stalkers spamming trash, and he has taken some actions against Prantil as he understands that she is a menace to the welfare of his sites integrity yet, she still remains posting and moreover, ED has stated that he can't block her and won't remove her scamming trash post.
Ok, fair enough but, why doesn't he inform everyone on his site who this scammer Prantil is, and what she's about on his front page, Why should he ? Because she's more of a threat to his site then to anyone else, her criminal and civil records speak for themselves yet, she works activity to destroy the credibility to any report site that might expose her criminal activities, such as in the case of Rip Off Report.
Reputation Is Everything
Reputation is everything, as this stalker herself has stated on her trash sites and Rip Off Report and thus, she has discredited the very sites that were constructed to expose people like her over the last five years simply by, mass spamming liable post against companies and persons as truthful and factual information that were more so, disprove and shown to be liable postings geared to destroy personal reputations.
ED Magedson, also states that he leaves these post up on his pages to show others how a person or Company handled a particular situation, ok and fair enough. However, how does something such as a EX talking shit about you throughout a nasty two year divorce have anything to do with a public concern?, it doesn't so why are these comments still posted in my case? Beyond me as this incident took place five years ago.
So, ROR allows incarcerate and liable information to be posted by hostile others against my wife, self and company for a span of five years in order to assist the public in some way and moreover, seemingly allows a couple of ror User named Stacy and Ramjet to post negative statements against us in calling us trash, scams or otherwise over five years every time we attempt to defend ourselves by providing verifiable legal proof that disproves the accusations against us and others.
You can see this by simply reviewing the conflict between ourselves and this two bit criminal Mary Prantil. So basically, the United States says that lying against another in a effort to destroy their reputation carried out by a certified criminal, is covered and allowed under the U.S. Constitution, Fuc_ing amazing.
Where Does This Leave The Consumer?
So, Criminals like Mary Prantil posting crap against lawful land based, and on-line businesses whom pay their taxes and follow the laws is considered lawful, believe it or not. But my question is, where does this leave the Consumer and sites like Rip Off Report? Sites like ror who provide a fertile environment for name bashing against the innocent school kid or business.
If a person such as Prantil is allowed to get up on a site who seemingly, has some sort of affiliation with Google itself who in-turn, immediately post and give senior ranking to anything that comes off of these troubled sites under a person's or companies name, then this can make anyone a prime target for punks like prantil, INCLUDING POLITICIANS.
What makes all this even more preposterous, is in that it's taken the state of New York to put this prantil animal in a cage, or has taken four years and nine months to prosecute this stalker pay pal scammer, even with the overwhelming evidence against her in this particular case, to which can all be viewed online.
So who's to blame here? Do we blame Google, ED of Rip Off Report, the Courts, Law Enforcement , the over all Legal system, or those who make our laws in Congress. Well, I think there's enough blame to go around but in the end, the blame really doesn't matter as much as the resolution, wouldn't you agree? Sure you do as none of us want freaks like prantil to disrupt our lives.
Google, Consumer Report Sites, Watch Dog Groups
And The U.S. Economy
You know, I find it interesting in the fact that sites likened to Rip Off Reports thrive of sensationalism yet, they bi_ch about folks using up their bandwidth in responding back to a stalker that had been pursuing them for five years lol, any way and aside from this let's move on a bit and talk about how sites like ror effect the economy.
Firstly, the U.S treats business and commerce like a potential criminal that subjugated to several consumer protection, or watch dog agencies whom in-tern, load the private sector down with unnecessary regulation.
The same watch dog groups and federal agencies that on-line idiots like Mary Prantil take advantage of in making out false reports against legitimate companies should they not fall for her scams against them and kick her to the curb.
Of course, persons like Prantil ride off the reporting agencies names as well, just as she does the companies she couldn't scam and Rip Off Report simply by, slandering or libeling their professional names in a effort to promote her own pipe dream endeavors. In other words, if she can't steal from you one way she will find another way to do it through the misuse of someone's company or personal names.
When someone like Prantil is allowed to post misinformation, malicious lies and lunatic rantings on sites like Rip Off Report, then this leaves some Consumers very confused, and then angry, at the reporting site once they catch on that a once trusted sites like ror has allowed this misinformation to which in-turn caused the Consumer a great disservice.
In this challenging economy sites likened to ror whom post the liable trash from another that eventually leads to the destruction of a business be it on line or land based has a big part in harming the over all economy.
Why? Even though you don't write the liable content against another yet, you do have a reasonable knowledge that it is untrue information and choose to do nothing about it then, not only does that site violate the public trust in it, but becomes a co-conspirator with the offender in carrying out the act of liable, in my opinion.
So, in essence, anyone can post anything, about anything or person on these sites and the sites themselves along with the search engines go along with it by posting the unsubstantiated content of a liable post, don't you think so? And then tell everyone that they don't want to get caught up into a conflict yet, they don't mind contributing to it over a long duration of time, does that make sense?
As far as I'm concerned, sites like Rip Off Report only serve to confuse and mislead the public in the way their currently constructed. These sites turn the consumer away from tax paying businesses more then they promote commerce for these same businesses the way I see it.
Eventually, online scam report sites aren’t necessarily interested in the truth and or, not standing behind it any way more so, then the sensationalism that a conflict may or may not generate. In my opinion, these sites aren't really geared for the public’s financial safety or otherwise more so, then generating income for themselves at the expense of other innocent businesses, it's as simple as that.
Blog Trolls, The Scam Report Site Embarrassment
In the beginning, I would imagine that people like Mary Prantil was a dream come true for the inspiring Consumer watch dog sites however, the very thing that they hoped would bring conflict and financial gain through that, has pretty much backfired in their faces.
Why? Because blog trolls like Prantil have been proven to be scammers and liars who now in-turn, are more of a embarrassment to a site like ror rather then something that brings good press to it. More so, that has again brought the wrong kind of controversy to the site that has more or less, taken the attention off the sites being reported by the antonymous many and turning the questioning public back towards them and their real intentions.
Yes, Attention, that these types of sites really would rather not have lol, and it's all due to people like Prantil whom thought she could convince the public through her mass postings that she was telling the truth lol, and was exposed time and time again behind her 50 plus fictitious names that these sites provided and protected her under, even though they knew she was a criminal liar.
Really, I don't think these sites are about free speech or blowing the whistle on a federal or state agency, There not about exposing a unethical businesses, or getting your money back from Wall Mart, It's not really about anything but proven criminals that are tied up in the courts for years on end trying to scam honest online businesses one last time before they are put under a jail some place, and sites like ror allowing them the chance to clog up the Internet with their ignorant trash talk.
Rip Off Report And Free Speech
In today's economy, sites like ror seem to think that their helping the economy but I don't personally think this is the case solely because, the way sites like Rip Off Report is set up. Sites like ror may have had good intentions in the beginning and maybe not however, this is irrelevant at this point as I believe that the content on these sites harm the economy more then they assist it.
I think that when the Consumer see a bunch of trash posted about a person or company then this can have a huge effect on that persons life, or companies reputation, should they not post back in their behalf and thus, this is something that companies and private persons should have to deal with as life is hard enough without having to look for trash posted against your good name.
Again, people shouldn't have to worry about responding to trash post on a daily basis coming from a balless Individual who doesn't have the courage to take up their grievance in a court, or in person for that matter. This is what site like Rip Off Report not only encourage, but promote on a daily bases.
Ok, how does this hurt the States, government and over all economy? Where do I begin? Well, we can start with the loss of business to private companies as a result of defamation promoted by these sites and thereof, the loss of tax revenue to the states and government due to businesses closing down as a result of a effective smear campaign against themselves.
We can bring up the fact that a site such as ror that allows smearing campaigns against the innocent will in effect, end up discouraging other perspective online businesses from opening up shop out of fear that someone may blast them on line through a site like this, or they could end up losing not only their good personal business reputations, but their family members could be considered fair game for a stalker as well.
From what I've understood in the past when looking at other sites venting their opinions against sites as Rip Off Report, I hear talk of suicides, foreclosures, bankruptcies and loss of carriers as a result of the repetitive targeting and malicious postings of relentless antagonist against a certain person or company.
I'm sure if a given annalist were to sit down and work the economic numbers of the online and land based businesses that were directly effected by these reports sites, they would find the harm that sites like this invoke on the populace would be staggeringly overwhelming verses any benefit a web business like ror or any other site like it would offer to the public.
Scam Forum Businesses Making A Living
Off The Misery Of Small Town America
Small towns and small businesses make up America the way I see it, so why are these mom and pop shops being attacked on sites such as rip off report?, You've got me. Aren’t these same mom and pop shops Consumers as well? So in essence, we have small innocent businesses and private Individuals trying to scrape out a living while contributing to the economy while supporting our government with their federal and state sales taxes, being indirectly attacked by the report sites.
Small businesses owners being indirectly attacked by other online report site companies such as ror via the spamming and malicious material they allow to be posted on their sites and further spammed by Google all over the world directories.
Think about this for a moment, let's say you have 10,000 antagonist out there writing 5 pages of post in attacking the good names of 10,000 companies, and these post are in-turn, picked up by 14 million search engines around the world for a period of one to ten years, do you think this will have a negative effect on the over all economy? The answer is yes it would and has for the most part.
Sites likened to rip off report are the killers of many local economies in my opinion and basically destroy numerous lives through their operational platforms the way there currently set up. The scam sites, whistle blower or forum sites like to come off as being these free little places that have the public’s interest at heart however, all anyone has to do is take a close look at them while using a little common sense to determine otherwise.
Many of these sites would also not be above manufacturing their own complaints while posing as pissed off Consumers, just to stir up a little controversy that would intern, generate some income for them.
Yep, these sites aren’t about protecting the Consumer but moreover yielding a opportunity to themselves in profiting off of the misfortunes of others to which, the rip off sites are greatly instrumental in causing in the first place. I've even heard tales of folks turning other companies only to be turned on by these sites when they refused to by services from these report sites, of rip off forum sites.
In Our Rip Off Report Conflict With
Stalker Mary Prantil
In our conflict with the two bit criminal prantil, we were never contacted by any law enforcement agency, lawyer or arbitrator of any kind other then being offered the Corporate Advocacy Program by ED Magedson to which we promptly declined, why pay money to have trash taken off the net some monkey wrote about you to which was total allegation without basis, right?
Rip Off Report attempts to make itself look official by posting links to Attorneys and Law Enforcement yet, this is window dressing as far as I'm concerned and as useless as tits on a boar. It all basically goes back to these sites asking your for donations and offering you their advocacy programs that can cost you in the tens of thousands of dollars.
It's quit strange that in our five year tiff with Mary Prantil, a proven New York criminal with a record a mile long, it has always appeared that she was given preferential treatment by ror in that more of her trash posting would go up and more often then our defense post over the last five years.
My question would be, WHY would a site like ror permit a person like prantil to post on a site such as Rip Off Report in the first place? After all, isn't this site supposed to afford a place for the Consumer to launch credible complaints against cooperate businesses?
So why has Rip Off Report allowed Mary Prantil to attack numerous and unrelated people on the ror site alone? Why? Is this confirmed NYC criminal allowed to mass spam negative and untrue trash reports against innocent persons that have never owned a businesses, and why does Google and Yahoo promote these links?
Especially when they know what's going on and have stated that they don't want to get in the middle of it, you got me. The way I see it, they are in the middle of it by posting the links and moreover, play a significant roll in destroying businesses and lives as a result. In short, these trash scam report sites wouldn't be anything without the cooperation of the search engines, correct?
I often wonder if people like prantil, the criminal type, are used by these sites to create conflict for small businesses in order to eventually pull in reviving for these sites I mean, it all seems to fit and keep coming back to the same thing in that the Complaint sites would stand the most to gain with such a person in their corner. I've wondered many time if mary prantil is even paid by what I consider to be rouge complaint sites, and or rip off forum sites.
Reputation Piracy
If your like me, when you ponder the concept or vision of piracy, pictures of Pirates riding Spanish Galleon through rough and tumbling seas come to mind yet, there are many forms of piracy simply because piracy is a general term used to describe someone stealing and or, stealing by force, right?
They say that you can't steal a name or reputation of someone or business entity, but I beg to differ with the legal language that outlines this legal definition as follows. The good name of a person or company is won and obtained through that persons or companies interactions with their clients, business partners and or, over all competitors.
Good names aren’t something that is automatically given to a person or a company and often times takes years to cultivate a good standing in the community via treating all that you meet in a fair and a honest way.
So basically your reputation is based in what others think about you either personally or professionally concerning how you've treated them in the past and this intern, is passed onto others that haven't had a chance to meet, or enter into any kind of business deal with you as of yet. In other words, your reputation is based on the virtues above and what people think of you in the community, true?
When another either slanders a persons name or business through speech, or libelous the character of a person or company through written content on a forum complaint site, then the antagonist is attempting to reverse the long held efforts of the target victim who has worked so hard to maintain a good standing in the community, and this is stealing of a reputation by merely attempting or succeeding in changing the public’s view or concept of the person or company in question.
If the antagonist is successful in the tarnishing of the innocent persons personal or company name, then this results in tangible loss of business and property could occur via the lack of opportunity that the smearing has generated in the mindset of the public or local community.
In short, if the public believes the trash written about a person in question, then this intern causes loss for that victim and thus, even though the antagonist hasn't made off with money per say, they have taken something that wasn't theirs through deception.
Again, if a antagonist such as prantil attempts to steal a persons name by diminishing that victims personal or business reputation through sensationalism such as writing thousands of meaningless and false postings on the rip off sites, then she's basically latching onto another's name and popularity in order to push her own agenda and or, personal endeavors, and this is stealing.
So, her claims of Identity Theft aren’t so far from the mark however, it's not others attempting to steal anything from her, but her stealing from others through her unethical and unlawful activities over the Internet.
Plus the fact, that she's attempting to use sites like Rip Off Report as a vehicle to accomplish some sort of fame status, and ror is permitting her to do this for their own reasons. So the act of piracy isn't limited to the high seas solely and can moreover, take place on the Internet as well. Piracy knows not race or gender more so then opportunity, pirates are opportunist that will attack anyone.
Politicians Beware
Elections Are Almost Here
Public Officials, do you really want a very un-regulated Internet and the nasty post nameless people make dictating the outcome of elections and votes? Because this is what has, and will happen again should you not get a handle on the rip off forum sites.
Untruthful people or rivals posting countless trash reports ruining your good names and political reputations just because their miserable, or just because they can. Your reputations can be altered and distorted by any idiot that has the time to get up ion these sites day after day to post trash on you and thereof, changing the public’s perception of who you are and what your about.
All it takes is one bitter criminal idiot like prantil to get up on the Internet and fill the directories with negative and un-true comments about yourself and good family name, that's all just one. Your not immune to it, you can't escape it, and it's only a matter of time before you, yourselves are a victim of some nut job like Mary Prantil.
Person that knows how to play the system and an habitual liar who digs living in a world of make believe roll play, whom may find motive to attack you simply because she's angry in being thrown in jail under your administration and or, perhaps you merely didn't respond to one of her phone calls or letters to you. If you want to make a difference in your state, then address this issue of online reputation piracy by either pulling the licenses of these sites or blocking these sites from your states.
There's nothing good about what these folks are doing on Rip Off Report and their indirectly causing you loss of state and federal revenue in my opinion by hastening the folding of numerous small town businesses to which otherwise would be paying state and federal taxes, to which are needed badly last time I heard.
Internet Reform
I would ask that you send these Internet Pirates and reputation pirates a clear and decisive message in that their unlawful activity will not be tolerated ever again, and this especially goes out to the state of Arizona, the home to rip off reports.
I would suggest pulling their license and fining them heavily, shutting down these sites that are operating under loosely interpreted federal laws, put them where they belong with long terms of imprisonment if need be.
If you want to put a feather in your cap guys, do something good for your communities and the Internet community over all, by passing some laws to make people responsible and accountable for what they do and say on the Internet and or, permit others to do and say against yet others.
You can't have half of America abiding by the laws of the state and government and the other half running wild while doing anything they want, praying on the innocent just because the opportunity presents itself to them. What goes on concerning the Internet should concern us all as the web is a uncaring beast that will consume anything in its path for the sake of a mere dollar.
To President Obama and Administration
To President Obama and Administration. I would like to commend each and every one of you in the fine accomplishments that has taken place over the last year as these accomplishment speak loudly for everyone that pulled together in the time of a National crisis.
It wasn't easy, and were still not out of the woods yet, the light of day is peaking through at us with each passing hour. I must say it take a man of strong stature to stand against the opposition, who stays the course with the intent in doing the right thing by Divinity and man.
Look at all the accomplishments that have taken place over the last eight or nine months, and the problems that were overcome, the issues that two previous Administrations before you couldn't seem to find resolutions to yet, you saved the day in leading America back from its precipice of destruction.
Even though I seldom take part in the voting process simply because there's no one I really like to put my name on, I think it's gong to be a little different this year as Jan and myself are making the effort in voting for you.
We believe that your a strong, firm, intelligent and compassionate leader who seeks the truth and mutual resolve in matters of state and government. We have the highest regard for you and yours along with all the hard working people that stand at your side.
I know that I've been a little hard on the Congress over the last year or so however, sometimes we all need a little push, it was nothing personal guys, just so you know. We have the utmost respect for everyone in the Congress, Senate and Oval Office and more so, hope that the cooperation will continue in the future days to come between all concerned.
Remember the words of Abraham Lincoln in that “A house Divided unto itself can not stand” but further, a house united can kick ass people. Any way, this is the last post that I will be writing and I hope that all the post and letters sent in days past have helped everyone see a better way.
Good luck to you in the up and coming election Mr. President and best wishes to your entire family and Administration.
~James R. Morgan ll
Janhett T. Windglows ~
"Two Voices In The Wilderness"
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